Why shia abusing sahaba




















In course of time many people perverted Allah's trust with them and ignored His position and took compeers along with Him. Satan turned them away from knowing Him and kept them aloof from His worship.

Then Allah sent His Messengers and series of His prophets towards them to get them to fulfil the pledges of His creation, to recall to them His bounties, to exhort them by preaching, to unveil before them the hidden virtues of wisdom and show them the signs of His Omnipotence namely the sky which is raised over them, the earth that is placed beneath them, means of living that sustain them, deaths that make them die, ailments that turn them old and incidents that successively betake them.

Allah never allowed His creation to remain without a Prophet deputised by Him, or a book sent down from Him or a binding argument or a standing plea.

These Messengers were such that they did not feel little because of smallness of their number or of largeness of the number of their falsifiers.

Among them was either a predecessor who would name the one to follow or the follower who had been introduced by the predecessor. In this way ages passed by and times rolled on, fathers passed away while sons took their places till Allah deputised Muhammmad peace be upon him and his progeny as His Prophet, in fulfilment of His promise and in completion of His Prophethood.

His pledge had been taken from the Prophets, his traits of character were well reputed and his birth was honourable. The people of the earth at this time were divided in different parties, their aims were separate and ways were diverse. Through Muhammmad p. Allah guided them out of wrong and with his efforts took them out of ignorance. Then Allah chose for Muhammmad, peace be upon him and on his progeny, to meet Him, selected him for His own nearness, regarded him too dignified to remain in this world and decided to remove him from this place of trial.

So He drew him towards Himself with honour. Allah may shower His blessing on him, and his progeny. But the Prophet left among you the same which other Prophets left among their peoples, because Prophets do not leave them untended in dark without a clear path and a standing ensign, namely the Book of your Creator clarifying its permission and prohibitions, its obligations and discretion, its repealing injunctions and the repealed ones, its permissible matters and compulsory ones, its particulars and the general ones, its lessons and illustrations, its long and the short ones, its clear and obscure ones, detailing its abbreviations and clarifying its obscurities.

In it there are some verses whose knowledge [1] is obligatory and others whose ignorance by the people is permissible. It also contains what appears to be obligatory according to the Book [2] but its repeal is signified by the Prophet's action sunnah or that which appears compulsory according to the Prophet's action but the Book allows not following it. Or there are those which are obligatory in a given time but not so after that time. Its prohibitions also differ. Some are major regarding which there exists the threat of fire Hell , and others are minor for which there are prospects of forgiveness.

There are also those of which a small portion is also acceptable to Allah but they are capable of being expanded. Allah has made obligatory upon you the pilgrimage hajj to His sacred House which is the turning point for the people who go to it as beasts or pigeons go towards spring water.

Allah the glorified made it a sign of their supplication before His Greatness and their acknowledgement of His Dignity. He selected from among His creation those who on listening to His call responded to it and testified His word.

They stood in the position of His Prophets and resembled His angels who surround the Divine Throne securing all the benefits of performing His worship and hastening towards His promised forgiveness. Allah the glorified made it His sacred House an emblem for Islam and an object of respect for those who turn to it.

He made obligatory its pilgrimage and laid down its claim for which He held you responsible to discharge it. Thus, Allah the glorified said:. And purely for Allah , is incumbent upon mankind, the pilgrimage to the House, for those who can afford to journey thither. And whoever denieth then verily, Allah is Selfsufficiently independent of the worlds" Qur'an, Listen to me with attention. This may be the last occasion when I am with you, and I may not be alive to perform another Hajj.

God is One and He has no partners. Do not associate anyone or anything with Him. Worship Him, fear Him, obey Him and love Him. Do not miss your mandatory prayers. Observe faithfully the month of fasting. Pay Zakat poor-tax regularly, and visit the House of God whenever you can. Remember that everyone of you is answerable to God for everything you do on this earth, and very soon you will find yourselves in His presence. I am abolishing all the customs, practices and traditions of the Times of Ignorance.

I disclaim the right of retaliation for the blood of my cousin, Ibn Rabi'a; and I disclaim the interest on the loans given by my uncle, Abbas ibn Abdul Muttalib. I call upon you all to show respect to the honor, life and property of each other in the same manner as you show respect to the sanctity of this day. All believers are brothers of each other. If something belongs to any one of them, it is unlawful for others to take it without his permission.

Be sincere in your words and deeds, and be sincere to each other, and remain united at all times. You have rights in regard to women; so also you have duties toward them. Treat them with love, kindness, respect and affection.

The slaves you own were also created by God. Do not be cruel to them. If they err, forgive them. Give them to eat what you eat and give them to wear the same kind of clothes as you wear.

The members of my family are like the pole-star. They will lead to salvation all those who will obey them and follow them. Both of them are complementary to each other and are inseparable from each other. If you defer to both of them you will never go astray. And remember that I am the last of the Messengers of God to mankind.

After me there will be no other messenger or messengers of God. Muhammad Mustafa concluded his speech with another short prayer of thanksgiving to his Creator, and called upon Him to be a Witness that he had discharged his duty, had fulfilled his obligations, and had delivered the message of Islam to his people.

Firstly if you define Sahaba as any person who has seen Prophet Muhammed pbuh then i dont buy that definition.. Secondly if you are referring to some particular ra like Muawiya and Abu Sufyaan.. We hate their GUTS.. Thirdly As for those ra who have hurt Ahlul bayt and in doing so also hurt the Rasool pbuh , then to those also we have no respect..

Who are the ra who fit in the last category Ask history.. Farsh-e-Aza, wel i guess u should take a deeper look to tarreq then and see the khulafah rashida :D. Creations of Saqifah.. Remember when the Prophets would go to the men and say I come to you with clear Ayah.

They would say make a Maricle from God happen and they would. They would do this over and over again. Then the Jews said we wont believe you we see "Your" God. Every Hadith I have posted has been challanged by adverage Al's who have no knoledge on the science of Hadith. Ayyatul Qudsi even got a fight. YA Allah! I belive umar RA was hated coz he crushed the fire worshiping persians and the polytheist byzantines.

Salman al-Farsi a did not accept the leadership of Umar as the caliphate. It was no more than a worldly one-man government. Both Sunni and Shia know that Salman never did anything Umar said without questioning him for everything about it. He continued to criticise him.

Imam Ali a accepted the position as the leader of this government, and had thus accepted the role that this government could take part in, regarding law and order. When the Khawarij began to say that there is no hukm except from Allah, and that only the rule of Allah can be accepted, not some false worldy leadership which claims to be representing the Prophet s.

Imam Ali a replied:. It is true that verdict lies but with Allah , but these people say that the function of governance is only for Allah. The fact is that there is no escape for men from ruler good or bad.

The faithful persons perform good acts in his rule while the unfaithful enjoys worldly benefits in it. During the rule, Allah would carry everything to end. Through the ruler tax is collected, enemy is fought, roadways are protected and the right of the weak is taken from the strong till the virtuous enjoys peace and allowed protection from the oppression of the wicked. Note the underlined words, that even a bad government is better than no government.

At least law and order will be preserved and true tableegh may continue. Imam Ali a had already become the successor of the Prophet s , but now took the seat as the representative of the ummah.

He was the first caliph to be chosen by the majority of the Ummah. To explain further how Imam Ali a viewed his position as caliph, once ibn-Abbas came to him while he was caliph, and saw him mending his shoe. Imam Ali a said to him: "What is the price of this shoe? The simple thing will be to think that if Ali a accepts to be caliph , he must also accept the caliphate of Abu Bakr and Umar.

Unfortunately things are not that simple. This was in fact a quiet coup that occurred when ALi a became leader of this government, and he also made a stand against the previos leaders, Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman. In doing so, he would be doing tableegh to the Persians in the good of the Ahlul Bait a and would use his position to make the Pesians follow the Ahlul Bait rather than the false caliphs.

You all know, at least your historain scholats do, that Salman went to Persia and made sure that the Arabs will not begin pillaging them, and made them surrender to the Arabs to avod bloodshed. There was an understanding between Salman and the Persians, which the Arab Muslims did not have. Salman promised them that they will be ruled fairly and justly. The Persians only trusted Salman and would only accept his governance over themselves.

Salman said to the Persians: "I have the same origin as you. I shall be compassionate toward you. You have three options. You may embrace Islam, then you will be our brethren and you will have the same privileges and obligations as we. Or you may pay the Jizyah tax and we will govern you fairly.

Or we will declare war on you. The Persians, witnesing the brutality of Umar's army in other wars, and being alighted by the words of Salman, chose to surrender. Due to this relationship Umar had no choice but to make Salman the governor, knowing all too well how Salman did not aprove of his caliphate.

Salman did not accept his payments from Umar, and gave it to the poor people around him, and he himself lived in humility that Umar would never dream of. As I mentioned above Salman did not accept anything from Umar without questioning and criticizing him and his intentions.

Such accounts have been recorded, and one of them is when spoils of cloth was being distributed among people. Umar came and said: "Lower your voices so that I may hear you". He was wearing two pieces of that cloth. Salman said, "By Allah, we won't hear you, because you prefer yourself to your people.

He said again, "O Abdullah ibn Umar! Salman said: "Now we shall hear you". Would a person who has accepted Umar's vicegerency of the Prophet s speak to Umar like that? This narration is narrated in almost all Sunni biorgaphies aboout salman al Farsi, however short it may be. I don't even know if the Shias accept this narration as acceptable, but Sunnis seem to accept it. I canot imagine how sahabi obedient to Umar's khilafah would accuse him of being greedy and selfish.

So, brother, it is not all as simple, and as black-and-white as you think it to be; the event of Saqeefah has begun a deadly gave of politics for which we are all reaping till today. As for your comments about Umar being hated by the Persians due to crushing their religion, this was not so. Persia was already disintergrating. It had been recently heavily defeated in a battle with the byzantines, and the king was a yr old boy. Even so, I will agree that Umar was hated by them as the new conqueror and ruler of Persia.

But this was not the main reason. But the invaders never forced them to lose their traditions and religions. They were allowed to worship whoever they wanted, as long as they subnmitted to Umar's rule. THanks are for Salman that many Persians did become Muslim. History testifies that many many Persians became Muslims. Western unbias historians, such as Edward Browne, have noted that the Persians became Muslim gradually and were not forced to give up their religion and cultures.

Their "acceptance of Islam was both peaceful and voluntary", said Browne. But how could they unhesitatingly accept the ledership of a person who was a warlord, desperate to conquer the world, and yet wear the garb of a religious leader and representative of the Prophet of Islam? They had accepted MOhammad's s message but hesitated when accepting Umar's leadership.

Also, by the way king yazdgard fled from his capital and went from city to city seeking refuge, the Persian people didn't support him well. He ran all the way to Khorasan where he had to hide in a mill, until he was killed by the Persian miller. The Shia;sim truly came apparent in Iran 3 centuries later. The MAIN reason why Iranians hated Umar and the leadership of the Bani umayyah was because of their extreme prejudice against non-Arabs, adn were drawn to the justice and equality that the Ahlul Bait preached.

They said to him that the Messenger of God s did not make any distinction between Arabs and non-Arabs in the disbursement of public funds bayt al mal or in the matter of marriage. They added that the Prophet S distributed public funds equally among Muslims and let Salman, Bilal and Suhayb marry Arab women, but today Arabs discriminated between themselves and us.

Ali A went to the Arabs and discussed the matter with them, but it was to no avail. The Arabs shouted, "It is quite impossible! I advise you to go into trade and God will make you prosper. Arabs have a right to take in marriage their women, but they have no right to marry Arab women. Arabs are entitled to inherit their legacy, but they cannot inherit from an Arab.

As far as possible they are to be given lesser pensions and lowly jobs. In the presence of an Arab a non-Arab shall not lead the congregation prayer, nor they are to be allowed to stand in the first row of prayer, nor to be entrusted with the job of guarding the frontiers or the post of a qadhi. Another narration: Once when a dispute arose between an Arab and an Iranian woman and they referred the case to Ali A , he did not allow any discrimination between the two. His judgement invited the protest of the Arab woman.

Thereupon, Ali A stretched his hands and gathered two fistfuls of soil. Then looking at the dust in his hands he declared, "So far as I can see, I cannot make any distinction between these two handfuls of dust. One Friday 'Ali A was delivering his sermon on a pulpit made of bricks Al-'Ash'ath ibn Qays al-Kindi, one of the eminent Arab chieftains, came up and said: "These red-faced people Iranians have come to dominate us in your presence and you don't stop them.

Ali A said: "These big-bellied ones drowse in soft beds while they the Mawali and Iranians work hard during hot days for the sake of God. Even then they demand that I should drive them away like a tyrant. By God, Who split the seed and created man, I have heard from the Prophet S of God, saying : 'By God, even as you in the beginning will fight Iranians with your swords for the sake of Islam Iranians will afterwards fight you with their swords in the way of Islam. Mughirah, comparing 'Ali with 'Umar, always used to say, " 'Ali showed greater consideration and kindness to the Mawali, while 'Umar, on the contrary, did not like them.

Abu Hanifa, a Persian but an advocate for the Arab superiority, said that an ajami non-Arab is no match for an Arab in marraige, basing this belief on the sunnah of the false caliphs. The Persians discarded their religion and culture and accepted Islam with free will. They strived to follow Islam, searching for knowledge wherever they went. But with such racism from the Arabs and from the caliphs, the Persians went in seach of a better madhab, and by Allah, they found it.

If we dont differ between them then we will have to justify big i mean big mistakes and sins commited by the sahaba! They were certain people who happen to be sahabas.. We are against such people. And we have a right to say that these people were against Islam. If you are that bothered abouts us shias, why dont you open a new thread, and invite us to the sunni path. That would be better than the emotional outbursts you have! Who can say that they are better than the SAHABAH when the Prophet said: "The best of my nation is my generation then those who follow them and then those who follow them.

Aboo Haazim Sallaam ibn Sulaym, may Allaah have mercy on him used to expel those individuals who used to revile the Companions of the Prophet, , from his majlis while saying: "Don't revile the Companions of the Messenger of Allaah for indeed they accepted Islaam due to the Khashyah Fear of Allaah and you people embraced Islaam because of your fear of their swords i.

And for all those Shi'ite and deviants who cruse any of the Sahabah this applys to you Allah has extolled the virtues of the Companions of the Prophet s. A Companion is defined as one who met the Prophet s.

These hadith clearly infer that all those involved in the Battles of Jamal, Sifeen and the tragedy of Karbala are destined for Hell. What is the fatwa of Minhajj al Nasibi here? So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them. Because the Prophet SAWS was real, what he brought was the truth and all of it was conveyed to us by way of the Sahaba.

Thus the disbelievers are the ones most deserving of defamation. His position was based on the rulings of Imam Malik and other scholars. This is a fact, they quarreled, fought each other in his blessed presence and he NEVER said that they had become kaffir. In fact Sahaba even criticized him S accusing him of being delirious on his deathbed and yet curiously we never hear these Deobandi and Salafi Nasibis ever running to the aid of our Rasul and deeming such individuals as Kaffir.

When a person enters into the fold of Islam, he is required to recite the Kalima tayyiba and Shahada, upon doing so he comes under the umbrella of Islam.

These are the conditions of Iman, there exists no requirement to have faith in the iman of Abu Bakr, Umar or for that matter any other Sahaba. In the absence of this fact, on what basis do these so-called scholars conclude that disrespect of the Sahaba makes you a kaffir? From this view point they will argue that believing in the iman of the Sahaba is a necessity since without them, the link to guidance shall be broken — hence to reject them makes one a kaffir. When debating on the issue of takfeer one needs to recognize that this is such a serious matter that a fatwa can only be issued when there is no doubt whatsoever.

Whilst some for example cite the verse that refers to Abu Bakr in the cave, deeming this as a verse of appraisal, others have criticized his Iman on this particular occasion. This is a very common Nasibi argument. At the time of the Farewell Pilgrimage there were at least , Sahaba, is it correct to conclude that every one of these individuals was just?

If it is not, then why do the majority school uphold the belief that ALL the Sahaba were just? In addition we are also expected to believe that all the Sahaba are like stars, whoever amongst them you follow will lead you to guidance. We will answer this claim by citing this example:. The majority school deem all those who saw Rasulullah s to be his Sahaba no matter how far away they were from him, when in fact the sad fact is even those that sat close to him, behaved inappropriately as can be vouched for in history.

The books of history testify that on the day of Hudaibiya, one particular Sahaba raised doubts on the Prophethood of Muhammad s , at Uhud prominent Sahaba fled for the mountains, one fled so far that he returned to Madina after three days. At Khayber the companions led by prominent Sahaba fled in retreat from the enemy. We also know that when Rasulullah s asked for writing materials on his deathbed, Sahaba said he was delirious.

Rasulullah s ordered the army of Usamah to leave Makka, Sahaba refused to go, after the demise of Rasulullah s Sahaba were debating over his succession at Saqifa rather than participating in his funeral arrangements.

If the majority school does indeed want to grasp such individuals would the better approach not be to grasp those individuals with an exemplary character, and declare such persons as the necessary components of the Deen? We will cite the treatment of the beloved daughter of Rasulullah s Sayyida Fatima sa. Upon the death of Rasulullah s this hatred became more open. Whilst it is difficult to visualize the events with the passage of some years, it is clear that the situation deteriorated to such an extent that swords were raised against Imam Ali as , that being the case how difficult can it be to identify and name the enemies of Imam Ali as?

Rasulullah s declared that a momin would never hate Imam Ali, but Ummul Momineen Ayesha and the Sahaba fought the rightly guided khalifa and in the process were responsible for causing the bloodshed of thousands. In light of these facts what fatwa will Minhajj al Nasibi and their Imams invoke on Hadhrath Ayesha based on these facts? On page he writes:. Tabari Volume 4 page 2. Ibn Athir Volume 3 page 3. So, where were the Minhajj and their Deobandi ancestors at this time?

Would it? Think about it. Seriously think about it. These handful of people from the Ahle Tashee community who abuse, swear and curse a few Sahaba is this right or wrong? Why do they do this? What is the reason behind it? Why are only a few Sahaba abused, sworn at and cursed? Why not the others? We will discuss this next time. The criticism is a one-sided criticism that really reflects the ignorance of people. Shia's views for the Sahaba e Rasool saww , pious ones, can be seen from the supplications of two of our Imams:.

You should [likewise] love them, extol their virtues and separate from the people of Bidah as sitting with them leads to one's heart being filled with kufr and hatred". The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount".

As far as I am concerned, I donot curse or abuse any sahabi but I only pronounce my disassociation with all those bunch of sahaba who showed their hatred towrds Ahle Bait a. Because Prophet saww also showed his disassociation, so I m following Sunnah. Thats true all sunnis are not terrorists but I am sure all deobandis and majority salafis are terrorists or atleast their supporters.

And [remember] when the Prophet confided to one of his wives a statement; and when she informed [another] of it and Allah showed it to him, he made known part of it and ignored a part. And when he informed her about it, she said, "Who told you this?

If you two [wives] repent to Allah , [it is best], for your hearts have deviated. But if you cooperate against him - then indeed Allah is his protector, and Gabriel and the righteous of the believers and the angels, moreover, are [his] assistants. Perhaps his Lord, if he divorced you [all], would substitute for him wives better than you - submitting [to Allah ], believing, devoutly obedient, repentant, worshipping, and traveling - [ones] previously married and virgins.

Allah has threatended them to be divorced and he may substitute better wives. But Bibi Ayesha and Bibi Hafsa are not role models to women. But none of these verses has ever even indicated to "curse" or "abuse" her, AstagfiruLlah.

After all they are Ummul Mominin. Shia Muslims don't consider all Companions to be good people. Some of them were believers while some were hypocrites. It's a great sin to curse, abuse or insult them. Companions are not above Ahle Bayt A. But those who became 'Murtad' after the martyrdom of Rasulullah S , as a Hadith in Sahih Bukhari indicates, are not worthy of any respect. Upon them "are the curse of Allah , the Angels, and all people.

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